AniInterview Sorry, this movie sucks

Jakoba True to its essence, the characters remain on the same line and manage to entertain the viewer, each highlighting their own distinctive qualities or touches.

Janis One of the most extraordinary films you will see this year. Take that as you want.

Darin One of the film's great tricks is that, for a time, you think it will go down a rabbit hole of unrealistic glorification.

destinylives52 "Saw IV" concentrates on two story lines: what truly motivated Jigsaw (played by Tobin Bell) into putting people into traps; and a cop (played by Lyriq Bent) being tested by Bell to see how far Bent's obsession will go regarding Bent's need to save everyone. While the former is interesting and well played, the latter was forced, with Bent doing many things that were out of character despite the screenwriters trying to justify it with Bent's emotional problems.More bloody, heinous traps; more gruesome deaths of victims; more plot twists; more revelations; more mini cassettes with Bell's altered voice; more frenetic editing and transitions that move the story along rapidly…all leading to more reasons for fans of this series to squirm and laugh and gasp and enjoy the morbid nature of these stories.My most memorable, movie moment of "Saw IV" is the very detailed, disgusting, and fascinating autopsy scene. Unless you have a very strong stomach, this is not the time to be eating your hot dogs or chips and salsa.Four movies in, and the "Saw" movies still have lots of steam. How far can it go before going stale? I shall find out soon because I'll be checking out part V.Mannysmemorablemoviemoments

Leofwine_draca Since they began, the SAW films have been little more than a string of grisly death set-pieces fixed together by story lines which are often silly and sometimes completely implausible. The fourth entry in a series that shows no signs of flagging offers more of the same, except in even greater amounts: the deaths are bloodier and more painful and the storyline completely ludicrous by now. The problem is that there's so much baggage, with references to all three previous films and recurring characters popping up all over the place, that the resulting plot is a confused mess, with people turning up from two films ago only to die and more unfinished strands than you can shake a stick at. What's even worse, the events of this film play concurrently with the events of SAW 3, but that's something we only find out at the very end, leading to much "what the heck?" confusion come the final moments.The movie kicks off with an utterly gratuitous autopsy scene in which Jigsaw is dismembered in exquisite detail. First, out comes his brain, then we witness his body being sawed open and his stomach removed and cut apart. It's all slaughterhouse graphic and adds utterly nothing to the plot or movie; it's just there to be repulsive. Shortly afterwards we're back to the deadly puzzles, although they're more confused by now and kind of just happen all over the place. Yet these are still worse than before: one woman is scalped in the film's most excruciating moment, while another guy has to push his face through knives. It's all very bloody and nothing is kept to the imagination. What I did enjoy was the movie's set-piece, in which three guys are trapped in a room. One of them is chained by the neck on a block of ice that's readily melting, another one is about to get electrocuted from the rapidly collecting water beneath him. This ends with many twists, as you'd expect, and nothing disappointed.Elsewhere, the film concentrates on the acting with some surprisingly good performances from the assembled cast members. Costas Mandylor and Lyriq Bent are both fine as investigating cops, while Justin Louis puts in a kooky turn as a corrupt lawyer. Donnie Wahlberg and Angus McFadyen also pop up in returning roles, but the best performance goes to Tobin Bell, who gets a chance to develop his character in a lot of flashback scenes. Here we learn how Bell turned from family man into psychotic killer, and it's pretty interesting, giving the movie more depth than the last three films all together. Which is why I found SAW IV to be a surprisingly watchable film, much better than the last sequel. Please, though, don't let there be any more...

Horror Icon Not sure what really happened by the end of this one. It was simply too confusing. And instead of someone being trapped in a room, Rigg was allowed to go wherever he wanted. Doesn't make much sense at all. The traps weren't even as good as in previous movies (although, I heard they were going to do some really elaborate traps, but they got canned due to budget). Disappointing, as this is really quite a good horror franchise. I was disappointed enough in Saw III, but this is worse. I still gave it 5 stars, as it was relatively engaging, despite losing the suspense and interest of the previous instalments. The loss of Jigsaw (with the exception of dull flashbacks) really wrecked the chances of this movie doing better. Not to mention the gratuitous surgical scene was grosser than the one in Saw III and really was unnecessary to go into such gory detail. Do NOT recommend.

bluegattaca This film has a decent backstory on jigsaw, cool camera transition scenes, dims in comparison to jigsaw as the killer though. Jigsaw is what made this film series and now he is dead and can't help thinking you still want him to be alive. The films main character is Daniel Rigg a guy who wants to go around setting people up in traps the help Eric in his own game of jigsaws helper. The movie gives no reason why in the world he would do this other than he is obsessed with helping people and wanting to save them. Then why is he putting them in traps to save someone else? Why does he care about eric matthews so much? The movie doesn't say we are just supposed to not think I guess and just go along with it. The lawyer of jigsaws is part of his game as well and shows backstory on why jigsaw got so mad and became who he was after his pregnant wife was hurt by a druggie trying to get drugs from her clinic that she runs and bumped into her with the door and caused a miscarriage. He sets the guy in the trap (has to push his head through some knives) and he gets through it and comes after jigsaw and falls into a barbed wire cage. The guy would have to be a complete moron to fall for that. He just runs past john and jumps right in it. Yea right. I also kept thinking cant they have another kid? He tries to get victims to forgive others but he doesn't seem very forgiving himself. Seems like the saw franchise suffers what most other horror franchises do as well. It is revealed that one of the FBI agents that was part of the game is actually the new jigsaw and everyone else dies. They put dumb characters with no common sense and horrible lack of judgement into their films. It shows a lack of creativity and laziness when you do this and honestly is a pet peeve of mine but it's something that I have to ignore when I watch some horror movies.